W56- Major Breakdown

June 19, 2011 in Uncategorized, World 056 News, World News, Worlds 51-60 News

This issue will be a major breakdown of the tribes involved in the MoM vs. !?! war. We will focus on the statistics for each tribe and their impact on the war more than the conquers or OD growth. We’ll be able to see who has the most to gain and the most to lose from this war, and look at some future possibilities. Last but not least, I gathered leadership from !?!, RW, Old, and MoM into one chat to get the scoop on how this all started.

 

By now everyone should know about the MoM vs. !?! war. No matter the outcome, we will see major changes in the geography and tribal influence. RW, Old, MoM, and !?! all have the opportunity to write their own story. What we are seeing now is the first chapter; the setting, cause, and beginning action. First, we will look at what each tribe has to bring to the table. Specifically, we’ll look at tribe internalling, growth, changes, and geography that will decide whether or not these tribes survive to the end of the world.

Internal rate = total conquers/conquers against self

Point rate= total points gained/points gained from self

RW

Internalling

In the last month, RW have conquered 134 of their own villages, while conquering a total of 783.  This gives RW an internal rate of about 17%. However, that 17% of internalling accounts for 23% of their points.

Assuming their 17% rate has been consistent in their time on W56, 274 of their 1,612 are internalled villages. This means roughly 1/8th of their current villages have been nobled twice, once by an RW member and then internalled by another.

Growth

As stated above, RW have conquered 783 villages, 649 of them are outside their own tribe. They have nobled 63 villages from the !?! Family while losing 5 for a gain of 58 villages. Each village averages about 7,400 points for a gain of roughly 430k. 10% of their growth in points comes from the !?! Family, and the war just began the 13th.

Changes

RW have been slowly gaining members to replace any they’ve lost to bring their total to its highest ever at 80 members. Since the war began against the !?! Family they’ve averaged a growth of 3 million ODA per day while gaining an a lower average of around 500k ODD. In 7 days they’ve gained over 500 villages, 6 members, and 14 million ODT.


Old

Internalling

In the last month, Old have internalled 214 villages. Compared to their total conquers of 1,363 villages, they have an internal rate of 16% much like RW. Old’s point rate from internals only account for 17% of their total points, roughly the same as their village rate.

Old have 1884 villages, the highest of any tribe but MoM, even though they are only ranked 4th. The 16% internal rate means that about 301 of those villages have been internalled, 1/6th of their total. Of course it is unlikely that the internal rates for these tribes have been consistent since their beginning, but it is a good way to compare the internalling with a tribes size.

Growth

Old are hovering around the 80 member mark the same as RW, with much more minor OD gains. Since the 10th they’ve improved their ODD by 3.5 million, ODA by 11 million, and obviously their ODT by 14.5 million. In the war they are up 100-21 with a gain of 665,000 points. Each village they’ve nobled averages 8.4k so they are nobling more efficiently against the !?! Family than RW.

Changes

Old have moved their way up to rank 4 in their nobling and light recruitment. Aside from gaining rank 38 prathappa and losing a few players, there’s been relative stability in the tribe.

MoM

Internalling

This past month, MoM have internalled 215 villages, just 1 more than Old yet they have 339 more villages. Out of the 1,483 villages they’ve nobled, 14% are internals. Note that while the percents seem low, every 1% MoM internals equals nearly 15 villages (RW 1% equals nearly 8 villages, Old 1% equals 19 villages). Their point rate equals 16.5%, with 1,759,234 points coming from their own internals.

With 2,223 villages, 311 of them would be internalled, just under 1/7th of their total villages. Looking at the numbers, inactivity plays a crucial role in TW. Imagine if all the tribes we look at today never had to internal their own villages. Each tribe would have around 300 more villages. If you put that number into the war perspective, we would be looking at conquers in the hundreds for each individual tribe.

Growth and Changes

MoM is consistently around 65 members but has lost mohua. and more recently Muldeh325 left with some questions best answered by this.

 

SacredFool:
I or one of the Muldie325 players will post the real story once we know how it will end. For now, I would just like to say it’s a result of some differences that appeared between the coplayers on that account. It in no way influences the way the tribe is run.

Aside from that, MoM is the consistent number one with a 63-2 lead on the !?! Family. Each conquered village averages nearly 9k points, the perfect number for any tribe this stage of the game. Their conquers are pretty evenly split between !?! and !$! which surprises me as I would focus on the better tribe first and then clean up the rest.

!?! Family (!?! and !$!)

Internalling

This section will have to go a little different as it covers two tribes instead of just one.

!?! have internalled 305 villages from the family, while it has grown 1,405. Their internal rate is just below 22% the highest of any tribe so far, but they are only one branch of the family. !$! have internalled 76 villages from the family, while gaining 703. They have the lowest internal rate with just 11%, but they are also the smallest of all the tribes mentioned. When looking at the points, !?!’s point rate is at 27% while !$! is at 13%.

To be fair, !?! has two tribes to internal from as they are the head of the family. Compared to MoM who have 2223 villages they can internal from, they have 2343 villages considered part of the family. We’ll look at the Side 1 vs. Side 2 stats later on in the issue. If you combine their internalling together they have an internal rate of about 18% of the 2113 total villages conquered.

Growth

This is a particularly tough subject to write on at the moment, as the !?! Family are not currently growing. However, they’re picking up the pace at least a little bit against their opponents with 10 conquers in the last 48 hours compared to 13 total beforehand.

Changes

To sum it all up, below is the tribe changes for just !?!
Also, !?! has now dropped to rank 3, falling to Haul!

Next up, we’ll look at the the location of this war and the territory it encompasses. But first, check out the before and after auto-updating maps below!

(Changes from 6/10 to present)

Present

 

War Location

As you can see MoM, RW, and Old have pushed their way into the !?! Family from all sides and are gaining substantial territory. What happens next is up to the tribes themselves. Their internalling, growth, and changes will determine what the NE looks like in the coming weeks.

Last but not least I pulled together the alliance leaders and a leader from the !?! Family into one chat. In a clash of personalities and opinions, we discovered the real truth behind this war and why its such a big deal…

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
This is just like a debate, I want you guys to express your opinions whether they are the same or not, but first start us off with a little bit about you and who you are

croggy:
I have your answers
Yes
No
No
Why?
Never not even if sqid paid for it
Only if its a pretty dress
And of course but i would be on top
And for my p.s.
TOUCH ME

ME BE CROGG
BE LIKE PLAYING WITH PEOPLES
BE DRINKEY LOTTA LONG TIME

mynameisluke/bye bye:
Ambitious is probably the biggest thing about me
Ambitious and daring, not afraid to take risks ;)

Matt:
Ok
In game name is NottinghamForestFan and I am baron in !?! (second in command)

SF / Sqid / Michal:
I am sacredfool, playing under the alias Sqid on W56, the Duke of MoM.

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
What do you do outside of TW?

SF / Sqid / Michal:
Eat icecream
At least for the moment

mynameisluke/bye bye:
Play football a lot, working towards getting into uni and spend a lot of time with the gf :)

croggy:
I race motorcross , do alot of air rifle activities, play warhammer, work (alot) (as a steel fitter)
And drink

Matt:
Football, football and football

SF / Sqid / Michal:
I prefer icecream to be honest
But your choice :D

Matt:
Haha
We can always have both

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
Very true :D

Matt:
A bucket of ben and jerrys at half time

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
If there were one thing you could do right now what would it be?

SF / Sqid / Michal:
Rim toasty

Matt:
Buy a guitar
Or slap X in the face

SF / Sqid / Michal:
I have a guitar, it’s not as fun as it sounds

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
Who is your favorite external poster? :)

SF / Sqid / Michal:
Morthy

Matt:
Probs adamh i like the chart show

croggy:
Hmmm….
Me
Or ogun
The guy is so emotional about things i can’t help but get drawn into he’s writing and really start to feel what he is feeling as he is writing

mynameisluke/bye bye:
I don’t follow the externals. I am very content with the tribe that I have. I think a few other of our members post externally, but I like focusing on the game and the players in my tribe on skype. Externals take time away from that, and quite frankly make tribes look better then they are and the other way round.
So in my opinion you can’t gauge anything from the externals

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
Would you rather be a player in a tribe thats losing, or the leader of a tribe thats winning? ;)

Matt:
Oh well isn’t it obvious…

SF / Sqid / Michal:
A player in a tribe thats losing to be honest

Matt:
Really?
I hate losing

SF / Sqid / Michal:
Yeh, i love defending, but when i lead MoM i never get to do it :(

Matt:
So, I would like to lead a winning tribe. You want to swap places sqid? :D

croggy:
Hmmmm
I am not really into the whole leadership thing
I have never asked for privs
But i have been given them
I joined this tribe as a low level member
On the bottom run of the ladder
But for some reason the tribe seem to have taken to me and i have slowly been given more and more privs
I now stand at baron rank and i am very gratefull to see that stonesoup and netcore trust me enough that they would give me these powers
But to be honest privs or not it is always nice to be on the winning team lol

mynameisluke/bye bye:
My answer to that question, is I do not mind. It is better to be in a tribe that loses a war then just disbands for sure, but other then that, all but 1 tribe loses in the end. My priority is just to have fun with a good bunch of players, all growing well and becoming affluent. Although I do enjoy to be the underdog and win, that has happened a few times before

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
What is your opinion of family tribes?

SF / Sqid / Michal:
I like family tribes, they allow me to play some diplomatic tricks i have no heart to pull on normal tribes :)

croggy:
I have no good or bad opinions of them
They are just a part of the game
I ony care about how those tribes are organised and lead

mynameisluke/bye bye:
Don’t mind them, there is a member limit set for a reason, family tribes are disfunctional and no better then allies.

croggy:
If they have good leadership and are there to help and teach the lower members then they can only be a good thing as they up the skill level of the average player
But alas most family tribes use the 2nd /3rd /4th tribes as storage freezers for their food

Matt:
Family tribes are a waste of time. They usually end up working at a tangent to each other

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
What about when they work together Matt?

Matt:
I cannot say I have ever seen a successful family…

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
What is the difference between a coalition if you will for a gangbang and a family tribe?

Matt:
The separate tribes still have their own agenda but we are considered one

croggy:
We have no real ties to each other and definately no loyalties

Where as family tribes there is always one tribe who holds power over the other
So they work less for their own gains and more for the benefit of the main tribe

Matt:
And if you look at a map Old and MoM are very separate in terms of positioning

SF / Sqid / Michal:
First of all, the diplomacy. allies still have their own diplomatic goals. secondly, freedom of movement between tribes

mynameisluke/bye bye:
Like I said, they are no better then allies, so there isn’t much difference. All depends on amount of family tribes

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
What are your goals for this war?

Matt:
Goals. Die quck and easy
Should be gone in 5 days ;)

SF / Sqid / Michal:
Lawl Matt :D i know what your goal was

Matt:
My goal was to mess X up which is what I am doing.
I have support in old players atm ;)

SF / Sqid / Michal:
ultimately, i want MoM to dominate all 4 core Ks – i do’t think that is a surpise to anyone? but S-D and Tutti want to have an interesting war, so i decided MoM will stay out of it and let both of those tribes fight for K54 on a more even ground for now
As far as i know, the S-D – Tutti NAP runs out in 2 weeks time or so

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
Any preference on who you would want to win? ;)

SF / Sqid / Michal:
S-D :)

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
Matt, why did !?! go the Family route?

Matt:
We chose the family route because when we merged we had roughly 180 members which couldn’t fit into one tribe… The idea was to let players go to get it below 100 and become one tribe. Unfortunately, X is a mass recruiter so we never got below 100. Which was a mistake by him which he can add to his collection of mistakes

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
If you were X and just got declared on, what would you do?

Matt:
Cry in a corner cause he knows he can’t lead a tribe in time of war.

SF / Sqid / Michal:
Point at my members, laugh at them and shout “OK, who is complaining everything is too easy now, ………… ?” :D

after i stopped laughing i would get to organising the defences, i would make sure we last till we can launch a first Op, and then when our first Op makes us catch up in the stats i would look for allies claiming we have already turned the war around :P

croggy:
I would probably
Order a full scale assault on MOM
And hope we could ruin their expansion
It is a desperate move but as far as i see it !?! are falling and some small success against mom would earn credit and support

mynameisluke/bye bye:
Disband

croggy:
Quiter

mynameisluke/bye bye:
:D
I would not lead a tribe like that
And I would not lead a family tribe

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
The thought to war came from the Warg! merge correct?

Matt:
Yeah

SF / Sqid / Michal:
Nope.

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
Care to elaborate on that?

Matt:
He is a mass recruiter so he couldnt resist recruiting them

SF / Sqid / Michal:
I wanted to get rid of warg!, convinceing Sheep to merge them into their family was easiest :D
And then finding help with getting rid of sheep came naturally after

Matt:
Haha

SF / Sqid / Michal:
As i said:

“I like family tribes, they allow me to play sime diplomatic tricks i have no heart to pull on normal tribes :)”

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
So run me through the steps after the Warg! war (who contacted who, when Old and RW got involved, etc.)
Then I’ll have Matt give me !?!’s steps after the merge

SF / Sqid / Michal:
I wanted to get rid of Warg!
I convinced X. to merge into sheep (i mean, “declare on them”)
If X. was a good ally (which i didn’t think likely) i would get a powerful friend. If he didn’t, Sheep was a tribe much easier to take down then Warg! because Sheep bordered RW and Old, and because it’s leadership sucked, so i would get an easy to win war
Basically, a win-win scenario for me

SF / Sqid / Michal:
Though i do know now, i was optimistic to give X. the benefit of doubt

croggy:
Some mom dude contacted me
I spammed him
He made me speak with some old dude
I spammed him also
Then we went to war
I forget the details

mynameisluke/bye bye:
MoM contacted us

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
What about on your end Matt?

Matt:
Pfft… Nothing really. Most of the core Error members saw it as an opportunity to escape from the unorthodox and poor leadership of X. Since the declaration some other baron attempted to arrange some support with very little response… We have done barely anything in terms of offensive and ops. Been a shambles really since the declaration. Doesn’t help that X has gone inactive and the second in command is supporting the enemy and deleted xD

croggy:
Heck even sheep wanted to hit sheep

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
The question will come up once the !?! Family has lost more villages, will MoM recruit any? and what will the remaining !?! members do?

Matt:
Pfft there isnt much quality left there
Is ulimate engineer still in !?!
He is a good player

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
He’s in MoM :D

SF / Sqid / Michal:
MoM recruited 4 players in K45 (3 from sheep), becoming the dominant tribe there by a small margin. we want those 4 players to prove themselves, so we do not plan on recruiting anyone else

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
Whats the plan for !?! outside the core? Will they just be left for Old and RW?

Matt:
I think we have very little in terms of core now

SF / Sqid / Michal:
For now, yes, but like i said, there are no agreements regarding anything between MoM, Old and RW
Except the fact we declare together and are NAPed for the time of the war

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
Once the war is “over” what do you think is next?

croggy:
For rw we shall try and consolidate our position and maybe look to continueing east
Theres alot of good in w2v
They should be respected for the work they have done so maybe we would look to work with them
But who knows

mynameisluke/bye bye:
I am not gonna reveal any plans…besides there are none set in stone yet :D We are evaluating our options

Matt:
We have lost a big grip in k46.
Well I will be gone then xD
I think Mom will just keep expanding. Conquer the core Ks then move from there

SF / Sqid / Michal:
I expect best Sheep players will be recruited, others eaten, after eating is complete, RW, Old and MoM will have to look at each other to expand probably

Matt:
What best sheep players?
Me and GE are gone? Nothing decent is left :D

SF / Sqid / Michal:
I have no idea, it’s up to Old and RW to decide who is good now :)

Matt:
Caleta is a good player
Maybe the only good one left

SF / Sqid / Michal:
Also, in every tribe, half of it’s members are above average ;)

Aaron(ArmyOfLoners):
Last but not least, say whatever you’d like W56 to hear 8)

Matt:
I have enjoyed W56 a lot and good luck to all of you left! Just like to say to X if you are reading this, this is what you get when you mess with me. Your deeds on W50 will never be forgtten. P.S. You all may as well quit, the MoM machine will eat you all.

SF / Sqid / Michal:
Lawl Matt :D

I would just like to wish S-D and Tutti an even and fair fight.

mynameisluke/bye bye:
If I wanted to, I would go on the PnP :) I am happy concentrating on playing our game. So far it has worked and we have demolished !?! and Lazy ;)

croggy:
I’d just like
To add
That rw are here for a reason far greater then any of you can understand

mynameisluke/bye bye:
Care to state it?
:P

croggy:
It has not been revealed to anyone yet
Not even us

O and P.S.
TOUCH ME!

 

That’s it again for this Issue 6 of the W56 Blog, I recommend everyone check out Gregoun’s KTH blog when the next issue comes out! Also it was announced on the externals in a note of passing MommysLittleBrat(or dream)¬† has left W56. I’d like to extend a good luck in real life and the future for everyone that has moved on from W56 or TW in recent days.

Hasta la vista baby!
~AoL~