The Long-awaited Round Table Discussion
August 22, 2011 in Guest Blogger, Special Features, World 031 News, World News, Worlds 31-40 News
I want to apologize for how long this took to be published. The raw text was 83 pages when I copied it out of Skype. I edited it down to 16 pages in Word before formatting it for this blog. And then my world blew up in RL. I got the chance to work on an independent gangster movie called SRQ State of Mind and a couple other film projects. So here we are, two months later. I still want to publish this, because the people involved had some good things to say and they gave up their time to talk to me. I hope you enjoy reading it as much as I enjoyed leading the discussion with the top dukes of your world.
Thank to jesseiam2 for creating the Roundtable Room on skype and contacting and adding the participants for me.
Roundtable Room Chat
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Jeho: Hello all
dukey_boii: Hello from ~GRIM~ Jeho: I look forward to getting to know you all and thank you for being willing to be a part of this with me. dukey_boii: Of course, always here Drowned Dog: Sup jesseiam2: It’s the DOG! Quick, bow before the might of the #1 player in all the land! dukey_boii: *bows* Jeho: Haha! I like you guys already Drowned Dog: Don’t like Jesse. He doesn’t deserve it. jesseiam2: Nope. He’s a noob…oh wait, I am Jesse…crap. Drowned Dog: Jesseiam1 you can like, not iam2. jesseiam2: lol Jeho: haha jesseiam2: We have representatives of FREE, FURIE, FU-RIE, GRIM and BASH. BOA, RR, and FHS have not yet read the message. It’s likely to be tomorrow before this thing can happen, but I will add folks here as they reply. The rest of the top 20 are 1 or 2 player tribes. Jeho: Ok, cool. Drowned Dog: 2morro dukey_boii: Awwww, what time it is likely to be? Because I may be out with my girlfriend. Drowned Dog: You stoopid people are always a day behind. jesseiam2: Depends, what time can you not be here; it’s probably then. Jeho: Whatever works for you all. dukey_boii: Around 3 PM server time would be good for me, I think. I won’t be faking FREE then. jesseiam2: lol, stop faking; send real nukes. I need ODD. dukey_boii: I’m nuking chosen and BASH! jesseiam2: Meh, they don’t need the ODD as bad as I do. Drowned Dog: You have nukes? I use spears. dukey_boii: No, but I need the villages. jesseiam2: But if you have to nuke them, nuke Old World 3; he’s a noob. dukey_boii: And yes, yes I have nukes. Drowned Dog: Makes the game a challenge. dukey_boii: I’m only nuking chosen and BASH over FREE because they’re attacking tribemates closer to me I love when a 400k player attacks a 200k player just to have a 1.1M player smash his face. Drowned Dog: Summer in a couple of months. Have to take laptop to the beach unless Morthy deletes me. sm3rdy4k0v: Finally, we’re all merging and ending this world????? Is that what this is all about? Drowned Dog: lol smerdy jesseiam2: All of us are gonna co-play Dog. sm3rdy4k0v: In all seriousness…send some attacks my way from time to time. I’m dying over here. jesseiam2: Didn’t I attack you last week? Greedy much? sm3rdy4k0v: No? Last week? That was a few weeks ago. jesseiam2: Was it? They are all running together sm3rdy4k0v: In 40 hours I have a new “pop up village.” You can hit it again. jesseiam2: Sweet! Where at? sm3rdy4k0v: Right in the middle of y’all jesseiam2: Near me? sm3rdy4k0v: Yerp, and, of course, I [screwed] up my support jesseiam2: lol sm3rdy4k0v: So the early bird gets the worm. jesseiam2: You aren’t coming over by me; you’re just teasing. I never get any fun. Jeho: You were all dragged into this room because of me actually. Drowned Dog: Hope it’s by me. About time I got a Furie village. jesseiam2: lol Drowned Dog: Berlyn just ain’t fun. sm3rdy4k0v: K49 is heating up. Have you taken many berlyn villas? jesseiam2: lol, you can’t reach K49. Drowned Dog: But he gave me attacker of the day, when I attacked 3 villages of his, kept sending support to a village with no walls. sm3rdy4k0v: Yeah, tell me about it. It’s not his mostly. I’m guessing. Drowned Dog: Na sm3rdy4k0v: Let’s me rebuild cats. Drowned Dog: Liggys, I think. sm3rdy4k0v: So, Jeho, you’re doing a blog article? Just read that. Jeho: Jesse have you told them why they are all here? I am filling in while ebony is away. jesseiam2: Yes sm3rdy4k0v: Yeah, Jess skyped me. Jeho: I am announcing a competition for w31 tomorrow on the forum. jesseiam2: First player to take 100 Drowned Dog villages wins? Jeho: I’ll keep that in mind for the next comp. jesseiam2: He has a few extra; he won’t mind. Drowned Dog: If you take 2361, I’ll give 2K in PP. jesseiam2: lol Jeho: Hahahahahahaha! What I would like to do is chat with all of you and turn it into a post for the blog. I figure as an outsider with no agenda it could be a fun piece; everyone gets his or her say. Drowned Dog: Say or way? jesseiam2: lol Jeho: Say sm3rdy4k0v: My guess is we’ll never get all the dukes on here at the same time. Jeho: That may be, but I want as many as possible and I have some things you all can do individually for me as well. dukey_boii: Hey guys. Aphrodite waves Jeho: Have restarts been shut off on w31? dukey_boii: No pochacco8: Good day all. dukey_boii: Hey poch. pochacco8: Hello. jesseiam2: The BOA or RR representatives have not read my mail. We have FREE, FURIE/FU-RIE, GRIM, FHS, and BASH. dukey_boii: Is Mr. Peeks the RR representative? jesseiam2: Yes dukey_boii: I shall speak with him. I used to be his leader jesseiam2: Feel FREE. pochacco8: I am curious as to what this chat session is about? jesseiam2: Jeho wants to do a blog featuring the leaders of W31; she will be asking us all questions and using our answers to make her blog. dukey_boii: By the way, when is this happening? jesseiam2: Anytime now I guess. dukey_boii: Cool. pochacco8: So this will be an open chat or one on one session? jesseiam2: Hopefully in one session, single chat, all of us. jesseiam2: Mr Peeks of RR dukey_boii: Welcome, peeks. pochacco8: Interesting. jesseiam2: We are missing only BOA. mr_nukelar (Peeks): Will this be the top 20 or just tribes that have over 5 players? jesseiam2: It will be the top 20 tribes except the ones with fewer than 10 players, which means it’s: FREE, FURIE, FU-RIE, BASH, RR, FHS, GRIM, BOA Jeho: Hello all. I am Jehosophat, and I play w17. I am also a senior ingame mod and the blog admin. I am filling for while Ebony is away and thought it would be fun to have a chat with you all. mr_nukelar (Peeks): I am also Duke of RU. Jeho: Nice to meet you. dukey_boii: Peeks, all of us here are leaders. mr_nukelar (Peeks): Just out of curiosity how long will this be going on for? jesseiam2: No less than 41 days of bliss. dukey_boii: lol ^^ Jeho: How many tribes total do we have in here, Jesse? jesseiam2: Technically 9, but 2 are FURIE and 2 are RU/RR and we are waiting for Boa to arrive. Jeho: All in the top 10? jesseiam2: No, 8 in the top 10, 1 not. Jeho: Anyone who wants to add me here and send his or her info that way please feel free. jesseiam2: 1 FREE 492.559.368 558.309.482 51 10.947.245 56816 9.827 2 FURIE 352.962.024 427.556.602 62 6.896.074 43140 9.911 3 FU-RIE 179.296.203 179.296.203 26 6.896.008 18135 9.887 4 BASH! 135.458.210 135.458.210 17 7.968.130 13715 9.877 5 BOA 29.179.705 29.179.705 36 810.547 3325 8.776 6 ~GRIM~ 28.279.552 28.279.552 30 942.652 3216 8.793 7 ~FHS~ 27.022.936 27.022.936 17 1.589.584 2764 9.777 9 RR 12.690.356 12.750.137 50 255.003 1492 8.546 24 RU 221.445 221.445 10 22.145 30 7.382 With the last one included only cause they are family of the #9 tribe Jeho: Ok jesseiam2: Tribes 8 and 10 are single player tribes, as are tribes 11 and 13-20. Jeho: So once 9 arrives, we will have everyone then and can get started jesseiam2: There are 431 players remaining, more than 1/3 of which are in FREE or FURIE family. You may have already checked Jeho, but here is the auto-update map so you can get a feel for where the tribes are at too: http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=128285 Jeho: Yes, thanks. I am trying to familiarize myself with the world. jesseiam2: I am happy to answer any questions you might have about anything. Jeho: Awesome! Thanks. jesseiam2: Jeho, not sure we are ever gonna get all the dukes in here at once. Aphrodite: Hey everyone. jesseiam2: It’s APHRO!!! Aphrodite: lol! Hey Jess. Jeho: I am sure we won’t get everyone, though it would be nice. Jesse do we have reps from different sides in the major wars here right now? jesseiam2: FURIE isn’t on right at the moment. They are the major missing party. We had Smerdy last night and I expect he should be around in a bit. However, to be fair, FREE has every tribe in here except BASH marked red. pochacco8: Why is BASH the exception? jesseiam2: Because we haven’t declared on them yet. Both BASH and FREE have enough on their hands without fighting each other, besides I have a crush on Aphro. dukey_boii: lol Aphrodite blushes jesseiam2: Also to be fair, FHS, while marked red, isn’t a active target; they simply aren’t close enough. However, I do send the occasional nuke at Ebony for her to watch for 300 hrs for fun. pochacco8: Haha | |
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Jeho: How would you all say you get along considering you all are warring at least some of the others in this chat?
dukey_boii: Because we don’t have any personal vendettas jesseiam2: I talk to the dukes of FURIE, our largest enemy, all the time. pochacco8: Yeah, everything is all business. jesseiam2: I would play other worlds with them too. They are decent enough; it’s a shame we have to wipe them out. Jeho: Cool. That is nice to see. It isn’t like that on every world. So no one has other dukes blocked ingame or anything? jesseiam2: I might be blocked, but I don’t have any of them blocked. dukey_boii: No pochacco8: None Aphrodite shakes her head | |
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Jeho: Excellent. How do you think you all have managed to keep it that way and not let the game get too personal?
jesseiam2: I was still chatting to FURIE when I had 3000 incomings from those guys. It’s a game; I don’t sweat it. mr_nukelar (Peeks): To be fair RR have been at war with FHS for over 3 months and we got a beating, but I still chat to the players and dukes and have a laugh. pochacco8: You don’t chat to me, Peeks. lol mr_nukelar (Peeks): Well, I can do if you want. Aphrodite: You just have to remember that it’s a game. At the end of the day the players however, no matter which tribe they are in, are real people with real feelings etc. You know where I’m going. dukey_boii: When RR were called ‘KOD’ they were warring against ~FHS~ for longer than 3 months. jesseiam2: Before today I hadn’t chatted with Pochacco, Peeks, or Dukey, but only because they are so small that we hadn’t had anything to chat about. dukey_boii: lol pochacco8: Oh yeah. That was almost painful how long that dragged on for. mr_nukelar (Peeks): Well that is why I put OVER 3 months. Jeho: How do you three feel about Jesse’s comment? dukey_boii: Quite sad I’m so small. mr_nukelar (Peeks): Well I don’t mind. It took forever for my tribe to get to the top 20, let alone top 10. jesseiam2: Combined Drowned Dog and I are larger than any of their tribes. It’s not personal, but they just haven’t been of a size to impact our plans. pochacco8: I feel neutral about it. We FHS members are grounded about our tribe status and our 7th ranking. jesseiam2: Also FHS isn’t close enough. The other two have been there, and we attack them occasionally, but nothing we have planned for. | |
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Jeho: How long has w31 been open?
jesseiam2: 2 1/2 years or so Jeho: Are any of you seeing a drastic decrease in world activity? I don’t mean tribe specific inactivity as I don’t wish for any of you to give away intel but in general terms. jesseiam2 nods dukey_boii: This world is seeing less active members, yes. Aphrodite: For sure a lot of inactivity plagues most tribes. mr_nukelar (Peeks): I agree. A good example is RIE. jesseiam2: FURIE? or RIE? mr_nukelar (Peeks): The last 3-4 members of RIE became inactive. jesseiam2: They were already inactive; that’s’ why they were left in RIE and not brought to FURIE. mr_nukelar (Peeks): My point exactly. | |
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Jeho: What are the biggest reasons for player inactivity on w31?
jesseiam2: Barbs in my opinion. Jeho: Can you explain that please? Aphrodite: Boredom I think. pochacco8: It was kind of sad to hear that RIE went inactive, and then LordAzim? went completely inactive and got his account deleted. That was a shocker. jesseiam2: We have 1/3 priced nobles, and there are so many large barbs, so players are taking them, and then tribes are not attacking active players. The other players are sitting back either barb nobling or sit bored waiting on a planned op. dukey_boii: The saddest point in ~GRIM~’s history was when yogi and danimalsr went inactive. Jeho: That makes sense, Jesse. jesseiam2: Right now FURIE is taking large barbs in our “safe” areas, instead of attacking players head on. Then we have to decide to try to wipe out these super-stacked villages or attack them head on. So we are forced to barb noble to stop them from doing that. I have taken hundreds of barbs in the last couple weeks; I absolutely hate it. Aphrodite: Agreed, Jesse. Jeho: Dukey, can you explain why that was so sad? dukey_boii: Because as our 2 leaders, we relied on them to lead us. They can’t lead us when they have a sitter… jesseiam2: I wish Morthy could turn on a “no barb noble” option at this stage of the world. Let the dead die and stay dead. pochacco8: That would be interesting setting for no barb nobling. mr_nukelar (Peeks): I would love that. It would stop my dam tribe nobling them. Jeho: hahahahahaha mr_nukelar (Peeks): And that’s the 3K ones. jesseiam2: Ugh, 3k barbs. Jeho: But isn’t there some merit to barb nobling? produce more D for the FL? jesseiam2: There is at a certain stage, but we are at the end game. It’s time to eliminate players, so we can end the world. Barb nobling is gonna extend this world’s life (if you can call it that) for another whole year. mr_nukelar (Peeks): I don’t have a year. jesseiam2: 11 of the top 20 tribes are 1 player tribes; this is insane. But they won’t be eliminated because of all the large barbs. | |
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Jeho: No offense to the smaller tribes represented, but looking at the world map, what keeps you guys playing?
mr_nukelar (Peeks): Well… pochacco8: Ebony is a good motivator. She keeps us on our toes, and to not give up until we are number 1…no offense. jesseiam2: None taken. mr_nukelar (Peeks): I look at the map and See RR have a large presence in the rim, but we have targets that we can actually do, and then once that’s done make another one. We try not to think about what’s at the end of the road; just what’s in front of us. jesseiam2: There is only 1 reason this world continues for as long as it has: FREE and FURIE haven’t decided to put aside differences and remove everyone else. If we did that, then decided to fight each other until the last 69 players were left, this world would be over inside of 9 months. Jeho: FURIE is not currently represented here right? jesseiam2: They have 3 dukes in the chat, but none online. Jeho: Ok, so in your opinion, Jesse, since you brought it up, what are the differences keeping your two tribes apart? jesseiam2: Mistrust. We don’t trust they would actually do it and they don’t trust that we would either. FREE allied FearUs some time ago. They turned on us and merged with RIE to form FURIE. We should have just declared on them all that time ago. They have been our only ally in the entire history of FREE. We shouldn’t have allied anyone. “Jeho: no offense to the smaller tribes represented, but looking at the world map, what keeps you guys playing?” <<< I think they keep playing because their goal for W31 is different than the bigger tribes. mr_nukelar (Peeks): correct dukey_boii: true jesseiam2: I think they know that they couldn’t possibly destroy any of the bigger tribes, but they are happy to keep playing and enjoy the journey. dukey_boii: We just like to play this game because it’s fun. jesseiam2: I want the world to end, to be over. They don’t. mr_nukelar (Peeks): And make what little dent we can into the large tribes. | |
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Jeho: Here is a question for all of you. If you could go back and change any one decision as leader for your tribe what would it be and why? (You know what they say…hindsight is 20/20)
dukey_boii: I would have stopped KroodyKrunk becoming leader of LOC (and in effect the LOC family consisting of LOC,LOCA,LOCE) because he was not fit to lead and tore us all apart. Even with myself as co-leader, we couldn’t handle kroody’s harsh rules and all. Jeho: What about the rest of you? proudest moments? decision you would change? jesseiam2: I am convinced that the winner of W31 will be the players who care to hang around long enough. It won’t have anything to do with skill or talent. It’s who can outlast the boredom Jeho: I hear that often from players on many different worlds Aphrodite: Yes, activity is key above skill and all else I believe. mr_nukelar (Peeks): I wish I had joined the world when it first started. jesseiam2: I was most proud of FREE when we are a very small tribe of less than 40 and we wiped out the IRON family of over 140 players. It was epic. Jeho: I personally am in favor of a new setting on worlds that open that would have a set end date like a speed or HP round but obviously longer….like say w58 opens and has a one year end date…w59 opens with a two year end…etc…but as the end date draws near the players can vote to extend it if they want…. jesseiam2: I agree fully, Jeho It would also force greater wars, but on the down side, it could increase barb nobling to try to grow in size faster. Jeho: I think a lot of players hang on out of loyalty and not for love of the play anymore. Aphrodite: Agreed, Jeho. I’m proud of our tribe everyday for our teamwork and commitment jesseiam2: The big prize for winning the world keeps me around. dukey_boii: I’m proud that our tribe are now talking all the time with each other. We used to be so quiet, but now it’s more like a social club. Jeho: I think Inno would keep more players if the worlds had a more definitive end…though they have made improvements by making an end possible at all. jesseiam2: Yeah, poor W1 is still going. mr_nukelar (Peeks): Really? Wow! Jeho: It would be interesting to know how many on w1 are original account owners. jesseiam2: Yeah. Here’s the thing, you got a player like Drowned Dog, he has close to 2400 villages now. The game has become so cumbersome that I don’t know why he chooses to do it; they have made great enhancements, but at that size, it’s just crazy. Aphrodite: I don’t know. I have really enjoyed this world (my first world); part of the fun is not knowing when it will end, etc. The gameplay is what you make it and if you are bored well…do something about it ..move yourself to the frontlines or whatever. | |
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Jeho: How many of you would start a new world if w31 ended tomorrow?
jesseiam2: I already play 1 other world, so no more for me thank you. dukey_boii: If w31 ended I’d have nowhere to go :/ I’m not good at starting up quickly for new worlds and so never last long. jesseiam2: Coplay someone good at startup, Dukey. Jeho: I think that is what I like about the w56 setting with the no hauls; it gives new players and those slower at the startup phase a fighting chance. jesseiam2: No hauls was a cool concept. dukey_boii: Hmm, I might try that; thanks, Jessie. mr_nukelar (Peeks): I can co-play with ya, mate. Aphrodite: I don’t know whether I would play another world or not. I have tried some but w31 always takes up a lot of time so the others tend to go by the wayside. Jeho: I find the same true for me. jesseiam2: I am top 25 on my other world, but I have a great co-player on that world, so it’s easy. I play alone on W31 and it is much more time consuming. | |
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Jeho: What is the worst thing that has ever happened to your tribes?
jesseiam2: I am the luckiest duke in the game, I can’t say everything has gone 100% to plan, but FREE has worked out very well. I am pleased. | |
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Jeho: Ok, here is a loaded question: which other duke in this chat do you most respect and why?
dukey_boii: Mr Peeks. I have been on this game with him for a long time and appointed him as Duke of RR (KOD) myself. He is trustworthy, experienced and always understands every situation. mr_nukelar (Peeks): Cheers mate, I suppose I have to say something back now. dukey_boii: lol, say what you want. jesseiam2: Can I say Drowned Dog? Jeho: Nope, from another tribe. Aphrodite: Well I don’t know all the dukes personally…. so I would say Jesse because of his commitment to the game and to FREE and DD. jesseiam2: Let me be as politically correct as I can be. If you are still around after this long, and you’re leading your tribe, you deserve respect. Jeho: Way to not answer the question. Aphrodite: lol, very diplomatic and well put as always, jesse. Jeho: Though it is a good response. jesseiam2: Besides, I killed all the other dukes I didn’t like. mr_nukelar (Peeks): I have the utmost respect for Dukey XVI. He has taught me a lot and helped me even outgrow him. dukey_boii: cheers mr_nukelar (Peeks): If you see him in another world, become friends with him fast; it will benefit you. jesseiam2: Or rim him quickly? dukey_boii: woahh Jeho: hahahahaha mr_nukelar (Peeks): or that jesseiam2: lol mr_nukelar (Peeks): lol dukey_boii: :’( jesseiam2: Wish someone from FURIE was here. Jeho: me too jesseiam2: They are too busy barb nobling. Jeho: Be nice, Jesse. jesseiam2: sm3rdy4k0v: Sorry, haven’t been on much today. It’s sunny and my pool was calling. My friends from FREE love me; they send me the nukes. “jesseiam2: Right now FURIE is taking large barbs in our ‘safe’ areas, instead of attacking players head on. Then we have to decide to try to wipe out these super stacked villages or attack them head on.” <<< this is true…I just did it, but I have to break up the boredom somehow. I’ve had clusters on the front for months that only get scouted…never attacked. jesseiam2: It’s slightly irritating and adding years to the game; please stop, lol. sm3rdy4k0v: lol “jesseiam2: There is only 1 reason this world continues for as long as it has, FREE and FURIE haven’t decided to put aside differences and remove everyone else. If we did that, then decided to fight each other until the last 69 players were left, this world would be over inside of 9 months.” <<< A good idea, but failed to get the votes. I’m ready for the world to be over too. jesseiam2: Damn shame isn’t it. sm3rdy4k0v: yerp jesseiam2: Maybe in the future. sm3rdy4k0v: We keep the communications open. | |
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Jeho: What haven’t I asked you all that I should have?
jesseiam2: If you had to be destroyed, which tribe would you like to do it? Jeho: oooooo good question mr_nukelar (Peeks): FHS dukey_boii: RR jesseiam2: I want Aphro to rim me…maybe I should have worded that differently. mr_nukelar (Peeks): Chawin from FHS pochacco8: Why Chawin? dukey_boii: I want enzo matrix to rim me. Jeho: Maybe this is why I didn’t ask that question. jesseiam2: lol dukey_boii: lol Aphrodite: jesse!!! mr_nukelar (Peeks): He and I were at the front line of the war to the exception to pfergal, I was in his way to the rest of the tribe, after the main fighting calmed down we came to an agreement to not attack each other. Plus I think he would be a good match. pochacco8: Cool. | |
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Jeho: Is it a fair statement that all tribes’ alliances are common knowledge on w31 at this point?
jesseiam2: Except the ones we don’t know about, yes. Jeho: hahahahaha So there are still secret alliances you think? jesseiam2: I do. Jeho: Interesting. May I ask why you think that? jesseiam2: I think that some tribes are likely to keep alliances with smaller tribes quiet because they are using said tribes and have no real intention of keeping such alliance. But that’s just my own cynical view. Jeho: Ah. Jaded aren’t we? | |
A huge thank you to all who participated in this Round Table. I thoroughly enjoyed getting to know you and your world better. I want to congratulate you all on your ability to remember this is just a game and that there are real people behind the screen names you fight against. Regardless of how w31 turns out, you can all be proud for having made it this far and conducting yourselves with decency and respect.
~ Jeho
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