Part 2: World At War
May 14, 2011 in World 052 News, World News
Last time, we focused only on Bush’s wars that developed the week prior. Today, however, we will go into depth with Part 2, discussing -SWAT-’s conflicts with NOTA and SOHK that have developed.
Why did -SWAT- decide to attack SOHK?
Will -SWAT-’s involvement in the Smile / NOTA war tip the balance?
Let’s get started on this week’s blog.
World Map – Top 10 Tribes
Very dramatic changes this week, with the reformation of -MM- to the rank one tribe, which goes outside of the scope of this edition of the blog. Nearly all southern -SWAT- members have joined -MM-, and, as a result, Cops has fallen from the top ten to rank 14, and -SWAT- too has taken a hit, moving down to the third position.
Everyone else is still static relative to last week, accounting for the shifts down in rank due to the new number one tribe. The disappearance of Cops opened up a slot in the top ten, which was promptly filled by $hadow, WET’s sister tribe. The tribe can barely be seen on the map, hidden beneath WET.
-MM-’s rebirth and its impact on the world will be discussed in this weekend’s blog.
-SWAT- / SOHK War
Although the physical landscape of the war has changed very little over the past few days, tribal dominance has shifted greatly. What was once -SWAT- and Cops is now almost entirely -MM-, and -MM- holds even more territory in this map than the -SWAT- family did because several players from P.S. also joined -MM- during their reformation.
We invest time in discussing -SWAT-’s relationship with SOHK because, though now obsolete, gives us important background knowledge in understanding the relationship between -MM- and SOHK now.
-SWAT- did not issue a declaration on the external forums, but their war officially began on May 4, at 20:04 ST. SOHK took the liberty of developing their own PnP as a riposte to -SWAT-’s declaration. Lavrikan3, -SWAT- duke, said that -SWAT- “didn’t really see the need” for a declaration, since they would just “get flamed anyway.” He said he prefers to let -SWAT-’s fighting be the true test.
When asked why -SWAT- was interested in pursuing a war with SOHK, Lavrikan3 said
“[SOHK] planned to declare anyway. There were attacks being sent anyway, so we thought we might as well make it official.” – Lavrikan3
Tossa75, SOHK duke, confessed that “I was considering a declaration myself.” Thus, he continued, saying “we were expecting [-SWAT-’s declaration], with the P.S.’ers taken in, but we gladly awaited it.”
It is perhaps because SOHK was aware ahead of time of -SWAT-’s plans to attack that -SWAT- had posted such poor stats during the war.
Speaking frankly, it is a bit alarming that -SWAT- was able to only noble three villages during the entirety of the war, even though they were the ones to declare. Lavirkan3 said “this war has not really started yet” and predicted that “things will soon change.”
It is interesting to note that while the stats above include the entire -SWAT- family, those conquers are purely versus Cops. The -SWAT- versus SOHK stats remain at 0 – 0 today; the Cops faction of the family seemed to be doing all the work.
Cristalblueroses, who handles SOHK diplomacy, explained why SOHK had been so successful:
“We have some great members that were on that front, and they were already hitting targets. SWAT declared during the middle of those operations. So I think it was a mix of bad timing/planning on their part, and great members/planning on ours.” – Cristalblueroses
It is, of course, the time of the year when player activity begins to wane due to school commitments. Tossa75 told me on April 30 that SOHK was facing some minor activity problems, but he was able to later disabuse those previous concerns:
“I’m pretty glad to report stuff is getting into gear and back on its feet.” – Tossa75
Cristalblueroses expanded:
“I’m sure that we have the normal inactivity issues that any tribe has this time of year, but they are being handled. We do have a great group of very active members that are getting things done.” – Cristalblueroses
However, their trust in their members may be misplaced in some cases. A surprisingly lack of loyalty to SOHK was demonstrated in this classified mail to -SWAT- leadership, sent by a SOHK member.
Bbud2 offers candid insight into what he considers to be structural instability in SOHK. Here, he tries to bargain with -SWAT- to secure a safe haven for him and his friends were they to abandon SOHK. Is SOHK facing internal problems?
Regardless, even in light of -MM-’s reformation and the technical ending of the SOHK / -SWAT- war, SOHK intends to continue to attack the players they were targeting before, even though they now reside in a different tribe.
“We have no current plans to stop our attacks, but MM came to us shortly after the recruitment of these players. We are talking to them about what we will do, and it has already started out better than our relationship with SWAT did. But no long term decision has been made as of this moment.” – Cristalblueroses
We will discuss -MM-’s take on the diplomacy in the next blog.
Lavrikan3 said that “[he] doesn’t want to stop until [SOHK is] gone, and there won’t be any recruiting.” He had “no doubt[s]” about southern -SWAT-’s ability to handle SOHK, but, obviously, he was under a false impression.
-SWAT- is no longer involved in this war; it’s -MM-’s problem now. How will they handle relations with their large southern friend?
-SWAT- / NOTA War
As we will recall from a previous blog, NOTA and Smile are currently at war with each other.
At the time, -SWAT- was not involved, holding only a NAP with Smile and no diplomacy with NOTA. However, Lavrikan3 said that “ big mouths often get you in trouble”, in reference to NOTA, implying that NOTA had done something to offend -SWAT-. When asked why -SWAT- chose to declare, he said
“Like SOHK, they brought it on themselves.” – Lavrikan3
Dflan93, duke of NOTA, said that NOTA is not overly concerned by -SWAT-’s role in the war. He requested that his entire quotation be published, without omissions.
“We knew they was and we was just waiting for them. Swat dose not bother us at all. The reason we wanted to war them is b/c they started supporting Epi.c. Well even when it was MAL swat came to use wanting help with rawr mode so we helped and then they started planning on attacking us back then after we helped and did most the clearing. So our every move since they turned on us from helping them clear rawr mode has been to end them. The world dose not hate swat b/c its a family. They hate them b/c they are a family that needs other tribes and uses their points to get that help. Its a very weak move and play of the game. So I really see them disbanding before we can rim them all.:( But here at NOTA we welcome them and wish them the best of luck and hope they find more help b/c they will need it in weeks to come. If they are still here.:)” – Dflan93
As far as Dflan93 was aware on May 8, -SWAT- was not coordinating with Smile at all against NOTA.
Lavrikan3, too, indicated that no such plans had yet be implemented.
“At the moment they’re not really fighting the same players due to location, but if we were close enough to d a joint op indeed we would. I’m sure it won’t take long at all until we do a joint op.” – Lavrikan3
Since their declaration, the -SWAT- family is has a positive conquer difference of 5 against NOTA. In the same time period, Smile stays ahead as well, 31 to 13.
We will discuss -MM-’s involvement in the war, and whether -SWAT- plans to continue their involvement in light of the recent developments in the next blog.
Finally got this out; had to make some changes to account for recent events. Will be doing another, more up-to-date, blog shortly.
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lavrikan3 on 06.05. at 23:46
well the problem is someone not in my tribe nobling my tribes villages mate.
that all i have to say about ure quoting is accurate, plx pass on the mail and those i had on the sitted account. Be my guess.
o well last thing to who did this blog.
Even if i dont like the new management of SOHK i never did anything against us until they declared war on me , top 20 ODD now, over 130 nuke crashed on me, i still could defend myself for a several day, but am tired.
so am explaining u guy what iam saying now that am dead. Bcause that my reason, they still only send about 300 fake wich is not honorable and is a sign of misorganisation , but i doubt any of ure tribe can do much better.
am off of this world , theyr a few ppl i will take on in a other world probly.
P.S. if u read correctly the south am talking about is my south the area i used to control. L8s in the same email, u can actually see why i asked refugee and it wasnt bcause SOHK was losing, but bcause of some jerk, who saying i can smell.
Now if u ever see a tribe that can actually count on all theyr member gimme a call il call guinnes record.
Bud
Web browser gamer since 1996
Never spyed or turned on a tribe or lied , unless ure to stupid for me to bother being respectfull.
N.B. i think that its really disrespectfull that who ever made that blog, is saying that we need to watch wat we are saying per mail since any1 can actually post watever they want. I could had defended myself if i wanted to and sent the whole mail, didnt want to.
Plx evry1 u are not mega diplomate trying to rule a country as soon as u get a position in a tribe, have a lil respect, its not bcause u have a big score that u have to fool around with evry1.
I admit I was harsh in my criticism, but it still stands that your southerners are losing. And not from your academy tribe either, but rather from your main tribe.
Just remember that you guys declared on us, and not the other way around. So don’t say that we were lucky. If we had declared on you, the results would have been even more “skewed”.
We’re not making much progress against your stacked people. Of course. Who would be dumb enough to nuke stacked villages knowingly? We like to be a little more…..effective and work our way around to find the chinks in your armor, a plethora of which we found.
i’m not “hiding” or “whining”, just stating facts. for example 34 of your current 82 takes against us are one (inactive) player. that skews the stats, is all i’m saying.
and in a backhand way you’re actually doing us a favour – weeding out the guys who jump at the first real challenge. unfortunately, it appears there were quite a few of them in our South, so you get lucky… but there’s also quite a few who aren’t, and i don’t see you making much progress vs them.
however bottom line is, you’re simply making it easier for -swat- to eat both our tribes eventually – though us northerners will have something to say about that!
Good blog. Love ‘em. I always check to see when a new one will appear. It’s a good way to gather the politics of the ever-so-fickle w52.
And on to the brennan:
Boohoo inactives. Everyone has ‘em. Your fault for not controlling them. We did, so should/could you. Don’t blame inactives for your ineptitude. We don’t. The real story is about a tribe who purports that they’re doing fine by hiding behind a erroneous excuse of “Inactives”. Please, give the whining a break and suck it up. It’s your fault that the quality of the majority of your frontline players are so poor that they suddenly go “inactive” right after they see attacks.
I apologize for leaving both SR (Smile’s academy) and Epi.c out of the stats. -SWAT- did not indicate to me that they were coordinating with Epi.c, so I didn’t include them when I posted the -SWAT- F. vs. NOTA, but it is of course appropriate to add them in below as well. I will make sure to include all members of tribes’ families in the future.
My condolences to Dflan93, too, whose name I managed to misspell every time.
However, I assure you that that quotation is legitimate. I would be happy to forward to you the ingame mail if you would like. Additionally, I attempt to remove bias from my blogs, and was not in -SWAT- when I wrote this blog.
Thanks for the comments everyone
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[u][url=http://en52.tribalwars.net/page.php?page=inbound&screen=info_player&id=981025]tossa75[/url] on 08.05. at 18:29[/u]
Mate, I completely understand your frustrations. I am disappointed by the lack of participation too.
I will take Gashults sit and make sure we defend it until YOU are ready to take your villages mate, word of honor. Claim in the thread for yourself and Greg.
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[u][url=http://en52.tribalwars.net/page.php?page=inbound&screen=info_player&id=981025]tossa75[/url] on 09.05. at 22:19[/u]
Do you think it’s you-smell then?
Bbud, ANY accusations are of help here. You won’t be kicked, judged, nothing.
You’ll just get more respect from me. You’re way more clever than everyone thinks or seems to think man, and useful beyond words.
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well i didnt apreciate the fact of the rumors going around i dont really want to be seen as a jerk. i enjoyed talking to ppl and stating the obvious. But i dont really like when ure backstabbed like a puppy. I dont spy or say anything that any1 cant see, some used this post to attack my reputation bad time so i wanted to post some of the other talk i had in the mean time. If u cant figured why the lack of participation can be a problem….
well i dont want to leave this game and been fair to many time in this world to let this go on. I will not quote stuff out of a text and wont put any full mail.
Let just say that SOHK leader’s knew about me mailing the ennemies and agreed that we were in trouble vs grinder, seeing my ally getting incoming and not getting help other than my troop and not being able to get a sitter and having to do it, well i took the beef for other reason than what SOHK gave me for kicking me.
I will not quote how many Of the HQ agreed with me and thank me for my way to handle stuff, to just kick me like that for a reason that they knew about.
so i wanted to say a few thing , i am trying to not quote any 1 but i failed
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[u][url=http://en52.tribalwars.net/page.php?page=inbound&screen=info_player&id=981025]tossa75[/url] on 12.05. at 22:19[/u]
You ain’t quitting mate.
It’s a game, have fun …. Thinking like that can’t be fun.
I’ll talk to Mugli, [i]try[/i] that is, and ask Monji about his claims.
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[u][url=http://en52.tribalwars.net/page.php?page=inbound&screen=info_player&id=981025]tossa75[/url] on 08.05. at 18:29[/u]
Mate, I completely understand your frustrations. I am disappointed by the lack of participation too.
I will take Gashults sit and make sure we defend it until YOU are ready to take your villages mate, word of honor. Claim in the thread for yourself and Greg.
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that all i had to show about what happen, but i must say that i did not really wnt to play this world anymore, but i couldnt look like a jerk to much, am not a spy am not a double crossing kind of guy, i just enjoy speaking to ppl about the game, but i do am rude and reckless.
nowe i lost a diplomatic war bcause i didnt want to get involved into politic
dunno how that quote will turn up
(spent 20 min doing that post better get trew, am french so my grammar is bad)
Meh, arguments that Smile nobled NOTA inactives are invalid. How can someone be inactive and yet still respond to our mails? I make it a habit to mail people wishing them luck and such before I try to noble them. The singular mail usually ends up a long drawn-out convo. I wouldn’t call that being inactive.
After I noble their villages, I also see a long procession of (late) support heading to the village. I wouldn’t call that being inactive.
The only thing is see is them becoming inactive AFTER we noble them. Players such as tribal-warz, masterthug, and kingtoka were actively defending before we nobled them and they started being internalled. Correct me if I’m wrong. I’m expounding this only from what I see.
Also, it’s not as if you guys weren’t nobling inactives/noobs either. The majority of your conquers (about 90% of them) are from either SR players under 150k or from people who had just merged into Smile from W$ (they were relatively clueless about the war situation).
But I agree. This “war” is pretty even. Just noble as much as possible. Good luck guys.
ps btw: score to date for NOTA/NOTA 2:
vs swat/Cops/Epic: 107 – 41 (in our favour)
vs Smile/SR: 65 – 69 (and most of our losses were inactives.
that’s the real story.
bren.
If you want quote’s from NOTA, try asking the right people. Dflan93 (not Deflan93, note) was never a duke, and frankly that quote sounds artificial to me, because he didn’t use such dumbed-down language.
If you’re going to presume to be the reporter-of-note for W52, you could a) make sure you know who you’re talking to and b) throw away your pro-swat bias and make more attempt to produce a balanced record. Just because you’re in that tribe shouldn’t mean you root for them when you write this.
And contrary to how you make it appear, we’re doing just fine, thanks.
brennanb6
Duke of NOTA
Good Blog. The only issue is that with the Smile stats, their academy SR should be added. Nota F. is up around 20 conquers on them, so that war is actually relatively even.
Great Job again, nonetheless.
yeah they let -ace- noble like 70 of my farm in a week and to repay me they naped the tribe that did it… for the rest i feel like a supa star where u take a few word outta a text.